Dinky 965-G Euclid Rear Dump Truck

I had some difficulty in coding this model as my copy of "Dinky Toys" by Dr. Edward Force didn't have an entry for the Dinky 965 model at all! [A subsequent, recent edition only lists 5 variations] However scrutiny of several other references (none of which referred to a coding structure other than the Dinky issue reference number 965) revealed 6 10 possible variations of the model which I have listed in the table below.
^*Further information has come to light from the members of the Matchbox Collectors Community Hall (MCCH) added as variation 7 and a comment^** at the foot of this section.
^***I have now located in my collection two versions of variation 3 which I have now coded as 3a and 3b.
^****I have now been advised of two versions of variation 4 which I have now coded as 4a and 4b. The green wheeled version is in my collection and the other information and photo^*** was provided by Kevin Leake of Ireland.
^*****I have now located another EUCLID variation which I have coded as 4c as it appears to fall into production between 4b and 5 as it has a Type 2 winder, Type 3 tyres and no Stone-Ore-Earth decals.

**Dinky 965-G Variations Chart**
Var	Period	Body Colour	Cab Casting	Glazing	Logo Decal	Winder	Hub Colour	Hub Type	Tyres	Axles	Box
1	1955-56	Pale Yellow	Euclid cast under the cab	No	GREY backed Euclid logo	Type 1 with sleeve	Yellow	Front: Type 1a Rear: Type 1b	26.7mm external diameter to fit 14.90mm hub Chunky, Type 1 Tread	2.55mm steel with rounded ends	Dinky Supertoy blue stripes
2	1956-60	Pale Yellow	Euclid cast under the cab	No	RED backed Euclid logo	Type 1 with sleeve	Yellow	Front: Type 1a Rear: Type 1b	26.7mm external diameter to fit 14.90mm hub Chunky, Type 1 Tread	2.55mm steel with rounded ends	Dinky Supertoy blue stripes
3a	1961-68	Pale Yellow	Euclid cast under the cab	YES	RED backed Euclid logo	Type 1 with sleeve	Yellow	Front: Type 1a Rear: Type 1b	26.7mm external diameter to fit 14.90mm hub Herringbone, Type 2 Tread with cast M	2.55mm steel with rounded ends	Dinky Supertoy blue stripes
3b		Pale Yellow [NB. Tipper appears lime yellow in some internal light but in daylight appears the same colour as the chassis and cab.]	Euclid cast under the cab	YES	RED backed Euclid logo	Type 1 with sleeve	Yellow	Front: Type 1b Rear: Type 1b	26.7mm external diameter to fit 14.90mm hub Herringbone, Type 2 Tread with cast M	2.55mm steel with rounded ends	?
4a	1967	Pale Yellow	Euclid cast under the cab	YES	Red backed Euclid logo	Type 1 with sleeve	Red	Front: Type 1b Rear: Type 1b	26.7mm external diameter to fit 14.90mm hub Herringbone, Type 2 Tread with cast M	2.55mm steel with rounded ends	Dinky SuperToys blue stripes
4b	1967?	Pale Yellow	Euclid cast under the cab	YES	Red backed Euclid logo	Type 1 with sleeve	Dark Green	Front: Type 1a Rear: Type 1b	26.7mm external diameter to fit 14.90mm hub Herringbone, Type 2 Tread with cast M	2.55mm steel with rounded ends	Dinky Toys detailed box?
4c		Pale Yellow	Euclid cast under the cab	YES	RED backed Euclid logo NO Stone-Ore-Earth decals	Type 2 without sleeve	Yellow	Front: Type 1b Rear: Type 1b	26.7mm external diameter to fit 14.90mm hub Chunky, right angled, Type 3 Tread without cast M	2.55mm steel with rounded ends	?
5 *Poss 965-H-1?*	1969-70	Pale Yellow	Euclid cast under the cab	YES	Black, white & red TEREX logo	?	Yellow	?	?	?	Dinky Toys EUCLID picture box
6 *Poss 965-H-2?*		Pale Yellow	TEREX cast under the cab	YES	Black, white & red TEREX logo NO Stone-Ore-Earth decals	Type 2 without sleeve	Yellow	Front: Type 1b Rear: Type 1b	26.7mm external diameter to fit 14.90mm hub Herringbone, Type 2 Tread with cast M	2.55mm steel with rounded ends	Dinky Toys TEREX picture box
7 *Poss 965-H-3?*		Pale Yellow	TEREX cast under the cab	YES	Black, white & red TEREX logo	Type 2 without sleeve	Red	Front: Type 1b Rear: Type 1b	26.0mm external diameter to fit 14.90mm hub Chunky, right angled, Type 3 Tread with cast M	2.55mm steel with rounded ends	Dinky Toys TEREX picture box?

^**Some time in the 1950s the chassis was strengthened, as this model can snap in half if abused. Then in the early 60s, after windows were introduced, Dinky started fitting the front wheels the other way round so they matched the rear wheels. I'm not sure why this was done, but it was a deliberate change, not an error. [Fred7A over at MCCH] The second picture below shows the later style.


Normal Wheel Hub	Revised/Reversed Wheel Hub

^****Kevin advises he remembers well getting this toy in June 1967 and feeling peeved because it did not come in a box with an action landscape picture on the box like other toys had at the time.

Item: 1781

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I have identified this model as the Dinky 965-G-1 Euclid Dump Truck in pale yellow, Euclid livery.

The model features a cast metal body with rear tipping bed. The front bumper, grill and "Euclid" emblem are cast into the cab body with the cast front lights picked out in silver paint. Inset into the bonnet is a black exhaust stack. On each side of the cab is a black "EUCLID" decal. The cab is not fitted with glazing.

The rear tipping bed is hinged to the chassis at the rear. A winding mechanism positioned behind the cab area allows the bed to be tipped by winding the sleeved handle. On both tipper sides are decals (designated "grey" in most references) representing the Euclid logo in the section closest to the cab, and black "STONE", "ORE" and "EARTH" decals in the remaining three sections. The former Euclid logo is, to my eyes, actually a tan and black decal with (possibly) grey stripes (acting as geometric chords) on either side of the "Euclid" man.

There is no interior detail or glazing.

All wheels are of a shaped, cast metal type - solid one piece cast metal hubs, painted yellow, with a heavy commercial 12 stud centre with a separate black "rubber" tyre with chunky tyre pattern.

The baseplate forms the chassis of the vehicle and is yellow painted metal with Dinky Supertoys at the top rear (behind the cab floor), "Made in England, Meccano Ltd" at the bottom rear, "965" on the cab floor in front of the front axle, and "Euclid Rear Dump Truck" on three lines on the cab floor, behind the front axle. It is fixed to the rear tipper by a rounded machined rivet which passes through the tipper and to the cab through the use of two rear cab body locating tabs and the front axle which passes through two cast lugs on the cab front.

The model comes in a standard blue and white striped box top with dark blue box bottom. The box top is imprinted with the usual Dinky Supertoys text on the top and all four sides with the left hand side end also carrying a shop price in ballpoint pen ink of "8/11". On the underside of the box top is the printed date "10 Jan 55". The box top also carries a coloured drawing of the model which, in this case, appears to use red and black printed dots to form the drawing of the vehicle over the yellow background.

This model was issued between 1955 and 1956.

Item: 1781

Item: 1783

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I have identified this model as the Dinky 965-G-2 Euclid Dump Truck in pale yellow, Euclid livery.

The model features a cast metal body with rear tipping bed. The front bumper, grill and "Euclid" emblem are cast into the cab body with the cast front lights picked out in silver paint. Inset into the bonnet is a black exhaust stack. On each side of the cab is a blue "EUCLID" decal. The cab is not fitted with glazing.

The rear tipping bed is hinged to the chassis at the rear. A winding mechanism positioned behind the cab area allows the bed to be tipped by winding the sleeved handle. On both tipper sides are decals (designated "red" in most references) representing the Euclid logo in the section closest to the cab, and blue "STONE", "ORE" and "EARTH" decals in the remaining three sections. The former Euclid logo is, to my eyes, actually a pale tan and black decal with 2 red geometric chords on either side of the "Euclid" man.

There is no interior detail or glazing in the cab.

All wheels are of a shaped, cast metal type - solid one piece cast metal hubs, painted yellow, with a heavy commercial 12 stud centre with a separate black "rubber" tyre with chunky tyre pattern.

The model comes in a standard blue and white striped box top with dark blue box bottom. The box top is imprinted with the usual Dinky Supertoys text on the top and all four sides. On the underside of the box top is an unclear printed date referring to "??? 56". The box top also carries a coloured drawing of the model which, in this case, appears to be a black printed line drawing of the vehicle over a yellow background.

This model was issued between 1956 and 1960.

Item: 1783

Item: 1642

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I have identified this model as the Dinky 965-G-3a Euclid Dump Truck in pale yellow, Euclid livery.

The model features a cast metal body with rear tipping bed. The front bumper, grill and "Euclid" emblem are cast into the cab body with the cast front lights picked out in silver paint. Inset into the bonnet is a black exhaust stack. On each side of the cab is a blue "EUCLID" decal. The cab is also fitted with clear glazing.

There is no interior as on the previous issues but this issue is the first to be fitted with clear glazing.

The model comes in a standard blue and white striped box top with dark blue box bottom. The box top is imprinted with the usual Dinky Supertoys text on the top and all four sides. The box top also carries a coloured drawing of the model (which in this case has had further red coloured pencil applied around the windows and bumper of the drawing by a former young owner).

This model was issued between 1961 and 1968.

Item: 1642

Item: 1792

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I have identified this model as the Dinky 965-G-3b Euclid Dump Truck in pale yellow, Euclid livery with a rear dump unit that in some light appears to be a lime yellow. Photos 1-4 were taken under blue photographic light, photo 5 was taken under normal room lighting conditions and the difference is quite clear.

The model features a cast metal body with rear tipping bed. The front bumper, grill and "Euclid" emblem are cast into the cab body with the cast front lights picked out in silver paint. Inset into the bonnet is a black exhaust stack. On each side of the cab is a blue "EUCLID" decal. The cab is also fitted with clear glazing.

There is no interior as on the previous issues but this issue is also fitted with clear glazing.

All wheels are of a shaped, cast metal type - solid one piece cast metal hubs, painted yellow, with a heavy commercial 12 stud centre with a separate black "rubber" tyre in an almost herringbone pattern and imprinted with the letter "M" on the side. This version shows the reversed arrangement of the hubs as outlined in the chart above.

This model was issued between 1961 and 1968.

Item: 1792

Item: 2249

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I have identified this model as the Dinky 965-G-4b Euclid Dump Truck in pale yellow, Euclid livery with a rear dump unit.

The model features a cast metal body with rear tipping bed. The front bumper, grill and "Euclid" emblem are cast into the cab body with the cast front lights picked out in silver paint. Inset into the bonnet is a black exhaust stack. On each side of the cab is a blue "EUCLID" decal. The cab is also fitted with clear glazing.

There is no interior as on the previous issues but this issue is also fitted with clear glazing.

All wheels are of a shaped, cast metal type - solid one piece cast metal hubs, painted dark green, with a heavy commercial 12 stud centre with a separate black "rubber" tyre in an almost herringbone pattern and imprinted with the letter "M" on the side.

This model was issued between 1961 and 1968.

Item: 2249

Item: 2480

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I have identified this model as the Dinky 965-G-4c Euclid Dump Truck in pale yellow, Euclid livery with a rear dump unit.

The model features a cast metal body with rear tipping bed. The front bumper, grill and "Euclid" emblem are cast into the cab body with the cast front lights picked out in silver paint. Inset into the bonnet is a black exhaust stack. On each side of the cab is a blue "EUCLID" decal. The cab is also fitted with clear glazing.

The rear tipping bed is hinged to the chassis at the rear. A winding mechanism positioned behind the cab area allows the bed to be tipped by winding the un-sleeved handle. On both tipper sides are decals representing the Euclid logo (with red background) in the section closest to the cab, but no blue "STONE", "ORE" and "EARTH" decals in the remaining three sections as on other models.

There is no interior as on the previous issues but this issue is also fitted with clear glazing.

All wheels are of a shaped, cast metal type - solid one piece cast metal hubs, painted pale yellow, with a heavy commercial 12 stud centre with a separate black "rubber" tyre in a chunky, almost right angled pattern but not imprinted with the letter "M" on the side.

This model was probably issued between 1961 and 1968. It appears to fall into the production period between the #4b casting and the #5, Terex casting as it has the Terex style winder (unsleeved) and the Terex-style, Type 3 tyres. Although carrying the Euclid logos, it does not have Stone-Ore-Earth decals on the rear tipper, similar to the Terex models.

Item: 2480

Item: 1784

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I have identified this model as the Dinky 965-G-6 Terex Rear Dump Truck in pale yellow, TEREX livery. However it might be considered the 965-H-2 as it is an altered casting from the original Euclid casting.

The model features a cast metal body with rear tipping bed. The front bumper, grill and "TEREX" emblem are cast into the cab body with the cast front lights picked out in silver paint. Inset into the bonnet is a black exhaust stack. On each side of the cab is a red, white and black "TEREX GM" decal. The cab is also fitted with clear glazing.

The rear tipping bed is hinged to the chassis at the rear. A winding mechanism positioned behind the cab area allows the bed to be tipped by winding the handle. This winding handle is different to the earlier handles which have a sleeve on the winding mechanism whereas this handle does not. There are no decals on the tipper sides.

There is no interior as on the previous issues but this issue is one of the later models fitted with clear glazing.

All wheels are of a shaped, cast metal type - solid one piece cast metal hubs, painted yellow, with a heavy commercial 12 stud centre with a separate black "rubber" tyre in an almost herringbone pattern and imprinted with the letter "M" on the side. This model has been assembled with the "reversed" front wheel hub arrangement which sees the front hubs assembled in the same way as the rear hubs.

The baseplate forms the chassis of the vehicle and is yellow painted metal with Dinky Supertoys at the top rear (behind the cab floor), "Made in England, Meccano Ltd" at the bottom rear, "965" on the cab floor in front of the front axle, and "TEREX Rear Dump Truck" on three lines on the cab floor, behind the front axle. The "TEREX" is on a raised plate on the cab base where the word Euclid previously resided. It is fixed to the rear tipper by a rounded machined rivet which passes through the tipper and to the cab through the use of two rear cab body locating tabs and the front axle which passes through two cast lugs on the cab front.

The model comes in a red, white and yellow picture box. The box is imprinted with the more modern Dinky Toys text on the four sides. The box "faces" carry a coloured picture drawing of the model clearly showing the revised winding mechanism, vehicle logo and wheel hub arrangement.

This model was issued between 1969 and 1970. Of interest is that the end flaps both contain Ballpoint pen writing indicating the purchase? date of 23-6-72 and a price of 60p [GBP]!

Item: 1784

Item: 2481

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I have identified this model as the Dinky 965-G-7 Terex Rear Dump Truck in pale yellow, TEREX livery. However it might be considered the 965-H-3 as it is an altered casting from the original Euclid casting and has red hubs.

The rear tipping bed is hinged to the chassis at the rear. A winding mechanism positioned behind the cab area allows the bed to be tipped by winding the sleeveless handle. There are no decals on the tipper sides.

There is no interior as on the previous issues but this issue is one of the later models fitted with clear glazing.

All wheels are of a shaped, cast metal type - solid one piece cast metal hubs, painted red, with a heavy commercial 12 stud centre with a separate black "rubber" tyre in a Type 3, almost right angled pattern and imprinted with the letter "M" on the side. This model has been assembled with the "reversed" front wheel hub arrangement which sees the front hubs assembled in the same way as the rear hubs.

The baseplate forms the chassis of the vehicle and is yellow painted metal with Dinky Supertoys at the top rear (behind the cab floor), "Made in England, Meccano Ltd" at the bottom rear, "965" on the cab floor in front of the front axle, and "TEREX Rear Dump Truck" on three lines on the cab floor, behind the front axle. The "TEREX" is on a raised plate on the cab base where the word Euclid previously resided. It is fixed to the rear tipper by a rounded machined rivet which passes through the tipper and to the cab through the use of two rear cab body locating tabs and the front axle which passes through two cast lugs on the cab front.

The model probably comes in a red, white and yellow picture box imprinted with the more modern Dinky Toys text on the four sides. This model was purchased in a played-with condition and without box.

This model was probably issued between 1969 and 1970.

Item: 2481

Item: 1790

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I have identified this model as the Dinky 965-G-2 Euclid Rear Dump Truck in a CODE 3 red, London Brick Company Limited livery.

The model features a cast metal body with rear tipping bed. The front bumper, grill and "EUCLID" emblem are cast into the cab body with the cast front lights picked out in silver paint and hazard stripes (black and yellow) on the bumper. Inset into the bonnet is a black exhaust stack. On each side of the cab is a white "London Brick Company Limited" decal. The sides of the bonnet have two smaller decals, the front one is of a workman with brick hod and load of bricks, the rear one (closest to the cab door) is a white circle with F 150 in it. The cab also sports, highlighted in silver, bonnet hinges and handles, cab door handles and grab handles and a black roof.

The rear tipping bed is hinged to the chassis at the rear. A winding mechanism positioned behind the cab area allows the bed to be tipped by winding the sleeved handle. There are no decals on the tipper sides.

There is no interior as on the previous issues but this issue is one of the later models fitted with clear glazing.

All wheels are of a shaped, cast metal type - solid one piece cast metal hubs, painted red, with a heavy commercial 12 stud centre with a separate black "rubber" tyre with a chunky tread pattern. This model has been re-assembled with the "normal" front wheel hub arrangement which sees the front hubs assembled in the opposite way to the rear hubs.

The baseplate forms the chassis of the vehicle and is yellow painted metal with Dinky Supertoys at the top rear (behind the cab floor), "Made in England, Meccano Ltd" at the bottom rear, "965" on the cab floor in front of the front axle, and "EUCLID Rear Dump Truck" on three lines on the cab floor, behind the front axle. It is fixed to the rear tipper by a rounded machined rivet which passes through the tipper and to the cab through the use of two rear cab body locating tabs and the front axle which passes through two cast lugs on the cab front.

This casting was issued between 1956 and 1960. This Code 3 issue was made circa 2012/2013.

Item: 1790

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